Tests show 5G wireless potentially 60 times faster than NBN

Possibly the day after Godot comes. IFF 5G becomes a ubiquitous small box on the light poll at the end of our streets it will probably be sometime after 9G rolls out. We have more than enough history to advise that :frowning:

As it is there are enough black and grey and void spots without any service so I am not holding my breath about anyone’s hype.

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Nor will it be a single box unless you are on a very short street with no trees, no walls, no rooves (roofs), or any other structure or thing that will block or severely interfere with 5G signals.

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Or on our road only one customer per box?
Given they might like to run fibre to each box they might find it easier to put in no boxes and run an extra 30m or so of fibre? Cheaper, simpler and infinitely faster.

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This is an industry view about 5G satellite communication interference…

https://www.sdxcentral.com/articles/news/5g-wont-affect-weather-forecasting-service-says-gsma/2019/06/

Even if the industry report is incorrect, it would be very early to position land - satellite communication systems in locations where mobile 5G signals are not present or cause alleged interference, such as many rural locations where such transmitters/receivers and space observatories are already positioned. This should be easily achievable due to the low penetration distances for 5G mobile network signals.

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Not a big deal, but some interesting market insights.

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They might like to start sharing some of their 3/4G Infrastructure first.
Why would 5G be any different?
Unless there is an agreement on the side that enables the sharers to ensure they are all making a suitable profit and return. Certainly not a legally acceptable situation?

Perhaps the NBN could exclusively roll out regional 5G on demand and charge each telco for access?:thinking:

Setting up a single regional infrastructure provider for all telecommunications would be one way to go. Public or private? NRCN Co (national regional communications network) here it comes. ‘Bringing all the wholesomeness and goodness of 5G to where you least expect or need it’! :rofl:

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Juat another attempt by Optus to freelaod off Telstra’s vastly superior network as they did when they commenced in 1992 reselling the AMPS analogue network, and later on, reselling Telstra’s CDMA network as they were too cheap to rollout their own CDMA network.

As usual, their modus operandi is to cherry pick the lucrative capital city markets and try to get a free lunch in the regional areas instead of actually putting their money where their mouth is.

My post under the topic Telstra 5G aptly demonstrates who the real player is.

If they are not prepared to invest in the regional areas, then simply stay away and leave it to the professionals.

Makes sense since the number of transmitters/receivers will be significantly more than past generation technologies, due to low air penetration rates.

If future vehicle technologies rely on 5G, their used may be very much impeded outside the coverage area…especially in more remote or lowly populated rural areas.

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Not sure that should be a cause for celebration or trepidation.

Will in the absence of 5G the transport remain guided by imperfect intuitive AI,

Or
Will guidance be taken over by imperfect human means, and operators who rarely need to practice the skills.

I do wonder what I might need to mow the verge with a zero turn without causing mistaken identity, or more so 3.5t of solid steel and water ballast that defines the tractor as it travels down the 4m strip of bitumen we call a road. It’s bright orange with a flashing light so the AI has no excuse, perhaps?

A suspicion is that all non AI road users might be called upon to upgrade their equipment at great personal cost to save the imperfect AI guided transport from lethal failure.

My walk or ride to the station will need a valuable Google helmet ID location beacon, cam and emergency beacon. All in the interests of bringing me a better personalised experience from you-know-who. A mobile localised 5G service with satellite uplink. Just what the NBN is made for, not!

How realistic is all this speculation?
Probably very if our governments continue to lag behind the cut and thrust of the tech giants redefining our lives where no rules yet exist! :thinking:

P.s.
That Google and Uber are not overtly trying to buy 5G suggests they see a future without?

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5G? That’s just so five minutes ago!

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6G is probably pushing the limit without special suits - most people can only handle 5G …

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It’s new! It’s different! Except where it’s the same.

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Something that has been in the pipeline for some time.

More important perhaps is the knowledge that 5G dies not always deliver very high speed. 5G works just as well in the lower bands, but at speeds (data rates) closer to current 4G than the widely promoted speeds possible in the mm bands.

The only good news is those of us with 3G only devices have a little longer before Telstra and Optus kill it off.

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700MHz won’t deliver the much-hyped speeds, but should work over longer distances and around/through obstacles.

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Very fast…

It certainly is.

Another high speed ‘record of sorts’ is 27,600 km/h. That’s pretty fast if you are on board. It’s the speed needed (approx) for a space rocket to match the orbital speed of the ISS. At any one time the ISS has 6 occupants. The US Space Shuttle could carry a crew if up to 7 at similar velocity.

For Optus or Telstra or others and 5G - “Forget the speed, feel the capacity”?
IE in plain English how many customers will be able to download simultaneously at the stated record at anyone time? Even average speeds quoted in the article mean little.

Congestion rules!

P.S. Apologies - Capacity vs bandwidth. The relationship requires some intimate technical knowledge to convert. References to bandwidth mean much to those in the technical know, but have little meaning to the average Joe.

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Big deal. Speeds over fibre optic cables using wavelength division multiplexing are typically measured in Terabits per second over hundreds or even thousands of kilometres. In lab setups Petabits per second are achieved.
If NBN had been done as originally designed, then 90% of users around Australia could have had Gigabit per second speed. And that is not sharing bandwidth as is the case with wireless.

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Readers get excited about portability and watching 4K HD programming on a 6" mobile screen along with everyone else, all together, when out and about. I’ll stop now.

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