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Hemp in food. Healthy, or just hip?

@grahroll

Although you are highlighting the differences of Sativa and Indica, the success of HEMP /CANNABIS and the now increased interest in the product as a food OR medicinal product comes from the medical discovery of Cannabinoid receptors in the human body.(CB1 and CB2) The studies showed that treatment with cannabinoids opened up new medicinal paths. The cannabinoids are now being found in foods that were never thought to have cannabinoids in them. Black seed oils and other plant based foods are now coming to the fore front.

In reply to the original question posed, I think that hemp seed is HIP in that it is still very much mysterious
to people, but its really the past history of Cannabis that really highlights its HIP -ness.

@grahroll

I am grateful for your challenging debate about the information here. I believe that this is how one learns successfully. The subject is such a dynamically broad issue and is constantly changing, to be accurate one would need to study multiple hours.

For people who are so inclined, I add one of many resources to search and read.

https://hslibraryguides.ucdenver.edu/NCBI

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It could also be another allergen to add to the list.

We discovered my son was allergic to Hemp when he was a baby and developed a full body rash and hives after being wrapped in a hemp/linen blend blanket…

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Healthy or Hip?

Are you drawing a fine line here between so called ‘super foods’ and simply just another food that is good for you? The alternatives are foods that are not good for you when consumed in excess.

Beans are healthy, chick peas are healthy, and many plant seeds are healthy. Most nut’s are plant seeds.

If hemp seed or oil or food products are free of THC and good value for their ‘real’ food properties, compared to the alternatives, why not? I’m encouraged by feed back from @grahroll and others re the texture and flavour characteristics.

Whether consuming hemp based food products offers other benefits? It would be most ‘unChoice’ like to suggest we should consume it for any reasons not scientifically proven.

Healthy? As other good foods.
Adds flavour and texture? Seems another great option.
Value for money? Possibly not for some.
Hip! I’d run a mile not to be. Some suggest it comes naturally. :thinking:

Thanks for the revealing article Choice, and the wisdom of the community so far. I’ll keep an eye open when next in the local F&V. It is that sort of shop.

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Interesting reads. once had a budgie who the bird feed shop owner siad to give him a treat once a week of poppy seeds as gives them a good feeling. As for hemp - would like to know just a bit more to ensure no relation to hemp giving high or blood result

Eating sensibly is the winner here

There is an amount of THC in any Cannabis Sativa product. So a blood test testing purely for the presence of THC that was sensitive enough would provide a positive result. The law then as it has no level set to say safe or not safe would find a person guilty of the offence of using a prohibited drug if the it was the driver (a passenger may escape censure if the State or Territory has de-criminalised it). This would also apply to opiates from poppy seeds and THC from 2nd hand smoking eg someone nearby smoking the drug cannabis leaf, oil or flower and the person innocently and possibly unknowingly inhaling that smoke could be guilty of an offence if presence of those drugs was detected and the person had no “lawful” excuse.

The high part is easier to answer, if you eat the industrial hemp type products including Hemp Flour, Hemp seeds (not from the psychoactive “Cannabis” plants), hemp oil (not to be confused with the psychoactive hemp “Cannabis” oil) you won’t get high. These products are what are sold in Supermarkets, Health Food Stores and similar. The amount of THC is these products is not enough to induce a high unless extreme (and I do mean extreme) amounts are eaten/consumed. What these products do contain lots of is the non psychoactive Oil often referred to as CBD.

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No this is not the case. There are THC free varieties which have been bred…here is one example…

There are varieties used for hemp seed where the seed comes from plants with either very low or no THC. The challenge is knowing what variety has been used in making a food, if one wishes to avoid THC. Hopefully food producers will clearly label products as such.

If one consumes THC free help product, there is no chance that drug analysis/testing will be positive for THC.

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Given the low to zero tolerance of any positive drug test result in workplaces and driving, my past attitude/response has been to avoid all food products that might contain traces of THC. The proposal of certified zero THC product may be a good solution for those promoting the products.

Few of us have a QC or JP and food specialist plus film crew follow our every consumed morsel and waking moment. At least to the level of proof required to demonstrate in a court of law or industrial court we have not consumed any illicit substance in the prior days or weeks. At least deliberately and knowingly? Irrespective both situations when considered legally appear (I’m not a lawyer or legal expert) to be not about whether you are a user or have a drug induced impairment. The evidence is simply a detectable presence. A reasonable excuse test is mentioned in some legislation. Prescribed medication is one instance.

Effectively while food products containing small traces of THC are not banned from sale in Australia, they are high risk products if you are likely to be drug tested for employment or while driving? :thinking:

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There are studies which show consumption of foods containing hemp seed products from low THC species do not affect THC levels in the person consuming the food. It has also shown that eating hemp foods will not result in road side positive drug test results…

Low THC hemp seed food fact sheet - Queensland Health

If a workplace takes blood samples and has these analysed using very sensitive testing equipment (say ppb detection limitts), in theory very small amounts could be detected. Similar detection in theory could result from walking past someone smoking marijuana in the street and breathing in second hand smoke.

It is also noting that hemp plants used for food are different to marijuana plants. They are two separate and distinct varieties.

Hemp seeds are non-psychoactive, meaning that consumers cannot get high by eating them.” In other words, it’s impossible to get high from them.

Any definitive studies in Australia, products vs standard road side and workplace testing?

The commentary simply relates to foods available in the USA. A summary point from your reference says:

Based on our findings, these concentrations appear to be sufficiently low to prevent confirmed positives from the extended and extensive consumption of hemp foods.

“Appear” is neither an assurance or guarantee. Does the real question become, are food products Sold in Australia and derived from cannabis sativa varieties regularly tested for quality and compliance with permitted residual levels of THC? It’s no different a question than certification of products as organic, or meat products being free or containing minimal levels of a wide range of agricultural chemicals (eg Safemeat initiative)?

It would be great to have some positive evidence all is OK.

In which instance those who test positive in a roadside drug test can only have acquired the result through deliberate use of the drug. Perhaps at the time such drivers are unimpeded in their driving ability. Does it become a more difficult question of proving from either side of the argument that the individual has never driven impaired. It’s a challenging observation when compared with how the law responds to alcohol. Both alcohol and other drugs impair judgement in many ways, not all to the same extent apparently.

P.S. Added note
One good Aussie reference and links with some answers:

And another

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This is what the Queensland Government link states:

Police roadside drug tests
Research has shown that the minute amounts of THC present in hemp seed foods will not be detected by current police oral fluid-based (saliva) roadside drug tests. Accordingly, it would be difficult for anyone who produces a positive THC test result from a police roadside drug test to successfully argue the presence of THC in their oral fluid sample was solely a result of eating low THC hemp seed foods.

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