My recent bills (from Origin Energy) show a listed items named ‘Daily supply’ + ‘Daily Supply - Controlled’ which are rated at 12c per kWh and at 92.5 c per kWh !!! This seems a rip-off when I already have solar panels PLUS a 10kWh battery so was drawing minimal energy from the grid as it was summer period from January to end of March this year (Very hot and dry). This is in addition to the ‘General Usage’ item of 38.5c per kWh anyway! So those 3 amounts added up to $126. Then I got a feed-in tariff of ONLY 12c per kWh for first 1191 of use, before it dropped to 5c per kWh (solar exports totalled $184.76)!
Thus I only saved $64.57 despite sending up to 35 kWh of energy to the grid daily FOR 90 DAYS! I should have been given a CREDIT amount, or billed a minimal amount when I was hardly drawing down any grid energy! SOMETHING VERY WRONG HERE! This does not seem to add up to a fair deal. Do readers get this item on their bills too?
That you have two daily supply charges means you have 2 meters. One is the meter to measure your normal household electricity and the other meter is a controlled supply meter used by some people to power a hot water system or similar device that doesn’t need to be able to work 24/7. The idea is that it allows the power supplier to control when the electricity can flow to the unit by sending a signal to stop and start the supply. Controlled supply systems have a lower rate set for power usage per kWh, depending on the contract and when the power can be controlled can substantially reduce the cost per kWh compared to normal household power prices.
Daily charges are not normally set per kWh, they are almost all a fixed rate per day. Your daily supply charge is what you pay to an energy provider for supplying electricity and, if connected, natural gas to your address. It isn’t related to how much energy you use. I guess it is possible that there might be a rare one that charges based on how many kWh are used. As an example here in Qld with Origin Energy my Daily Supply charge is 138.028 c/day. There is also a Solar Meter Charge of 9.567 c/day.
Hi @BarbJen, welcome to the community.
Solar feed in tariffs and what they are compared to power used from the grid are covered here:
The daily supply charges are a fixed component of one’s electricity bill and relates to the cost of having the ability to draw electricity from the grid. It is independent of the amount of electricity used. I suspect that you have misread your bill as:
rates will be ‘per day’ and not ‘per kWh’. Origins charges included supply charges are outlined here:
I have a new bill where I am once again disappointed as this covers the past three very hot, sunny months (3 Oct to 3 Jan) including two weeks away from home so I expected that I would get a credit of a few hundred dollars (was $188), for feed-in tariff due to my 10 kWh battery filling up early each day then sending most energy to the grid! However my credit is only $56 - for the these three hot sunny months! My fixed daily supply charge is now $1 per kWh. My feed-in tariff was at 12c for first 1250 Kwh but 3c there-after. Can see the trend downwards, so would like advice on other ENERGY providers offering a better deal !
Depends on which state you are in. For New South Wales, Queensland, South Australia, Tasmania and the Australian Capital Territory and in Victoria. WA?
The Victoria tool as an example uploads your actual use and feed-in as provided from your grid operator by time of day and presents plans. Not perfect but close.
I am not personally as familiar with energymadeeasy in the other states, but it is similar.
The caveat is how retailers are allowed (or not allowed) to change plans willy nilly so it is possible to find a great plan, switch, and be blind-sided by a change, so be wary.
It has shown steady improvement. Qld customer, Energex the Distributor, AGL Retailer. Importantly (my highlighting below) it enables one to select only Flat rate plans or Cost Reflective (Time of use) plans or both. There is also an option to include or exclude Demand based plans. It’s best to use the household meter NMI for the site to import the meter data.
I’ve yet to reassess how the latest version of the tool assesses Time of Use consumption for those with smart meters and those without. Depending on how one uses electricity and whether one has a battery one may be better off with a flat rate plan or Tine of Use.
It reads like it might be catching up with Victoria’s compare.energy?
We can do flat rate and TOU. The input data file for net electricity imported/exported is over 30 minute intervals. There is an option for controlled load also. The comparison automatically gets the data if the user approves or one can use their own conforming .csv data file they can download from the grid operator. It then models current plan pricing based on the trailing use data file.
I am in NSW so I used the Energymadeeasy comparison. Did all that and concluded I am best staying with Origin Energy due to reasonable supply charge rate and better Feed-in tariff rate (of
12c kWh for first 1200 provided then 3c after that) than
anyone else offers. As I DO have a 10kWh battery filling up daily from my 8 kWh of solar panels, it is not worth moving as most energy is used during daylight hours (except that I do NOT have a smart meter as Endeavour Energy guy refused to do it! Says I need to get entire power box rebuilt (as it was updated but still has older parts). That is a mystery indeed as Solar company stated that I would be able to get it done easily! So now to call Origin about my account….but will be ensuring that this deal stays (seems to be the case) for this year at least.
