AusPost red parcel cards

If the product has been bought in Australia and it isn’t shipped in a standard letter envelope or small package (viz. using stamps where the item can be placed in a post box), it most likely will have Australia Post tracking. Almost all Australia Post parcel post has tracking. A seller should be able to provide this to you…or, if one uses the Australia Post app, it should hopefully automatically appear in the app if one didn’t make a mistake with the details added for the delivery (or details are different to that registered in the app account).

The exception will be parcels sent from overseas delivered bu Australia Post. These may or may not have parcel tracking…and an overseas seller may or may not provide such details when the parcel is posted. Some sellers may also give bogus tracking information or information which can’t be tracked.

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In my experience, of living in this house since March 2011, it is very rare that delivery is attempted. Since my mobility became somewhat intermittent in 2013, my suspicion was confirmed. Even though I was at home, no delivery was attempted, and at the end of the day, I would find a “While You Were Out” card in the letterbox. This went on for several years/items, nearly all of which were then returned to the sender after a couple of weeks. I heard the delivery van, and happened to be heading out the front door one day, and managed to intercept the van before it got far down the street. I spoke to the driver, and asked whether they are paid the same $2 per item whether the item or the card was delivered. He said yes, kind of, but at that time he was paid $1.20 per item, not $2. This arrangement functions as an incentive for the driver not to waste time delivering the item, but to deliver as many cards as possible during a shift. Most “Aussies” don’t even think about getting in the car again and driving to the post office to pick the item up.

There have been a couple of years when I noticed that the same delivery driver was assigned to my area, so I spoke to him (all have been young men so far), and requested that items be delivered, but then it all falls apart again when he leaves or someone else is assigned to my area.

One day, I heard the van pull up while I was having a shower, and I needed the item, so I grabbed a towel and ran out the front door, I saw the van pulling up to a house down the street, and managed to catch it. He handed me the item, and we had the usual chat and my request to deliver items to the delivery address on the label.

I have submitted Australia Post support requests in nearly all of these cases, for more than 10 years, and an item was not delivered but taken to a post office only last week. I now submit Australia Post support requests that they return the item to the sender immediately instead of waiting for 2 weeks first, so that we can have another try more quickly. Australia Post always refuses to deliver the item when this occurs and I request delivery, so this is the best arrangement for the moment.

¯_(ツ)_/¯

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not everyone has a phone that does appa and increasing numbers of people are getting rid of expensive pocket computers (i.e. phones) for simple ones tht make calls and sms.

a missed delivery card is essential for these people.

Our home does not get reliable mail deliveries as some drivers refuse to travel along our road. We don’t know that something has not been delivered and not everything has a linked phone number or email address so then we do not know that something is at the post office.

Australia post is there to provide an essential service. It needs to do so in ways that work for all of us and not assume everyone has a phone that does apps or that everty letter and parcel has a linked phone number and email address for the recipient.

Auspost management need to do what works for us and not them.

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The features of the app are available through the Australia Post online account, which is created to use the app. This means anyone who doesn’t have a smartphone can still use a PC, Chromebook, tablets etc, to access information in relation to deliveries.

Even with these alternatives, there might be a very small number if the population who aren’t connected to the internet.

A phone not connected to the Internet (Dumb Phone) can still receive an SMS from AusPost provided the phone number has been included in the shipping information :slightly_smiling_face:

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The ‘red cards’ are sent to sms and even a dumb phone will get sms.

No need to try manufacture more excuses

Red cards are gone and they should be gone

2 things “onya Bobcat” and second a supposed “dumb phone “ was listed and no it does not get SMS, do not know where that idea came from , please explain Gaby

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So please correct me is a Dumb phone “ a mobile/cell phone “ or is it a landline type phone

because we have both and still did not get any notification

Hey Carlos do you live in a residential area or “the bush” as you are very strong in your opinion on the “red card” if the “bush” you may end up with a pile of undelivered parcels

Just a simple description:
A Dumb phone (formally a Feature phone) is a portable wireless device which connects to cellular towers for phone calls and SMS. But does not connect to Internet services.
Auspost only sends notifications through:
SMS/Text messages -
Email-
Auspost App-
Card in the mail.

Here are the primary reasons for not getting SMS notifications:

Incomplete Sender Information

  • Missing Mobile Number: The seller or sender must include your mobile number on the parcel label for AusPost to send an automatic SMS.
  • UN Tracking Numbers: If the tracking number starts with “UN” (untrackable), you will not receive notifications.

Account and Setting Issues

  • Not Registered: You may need to create a MyPost account and explicitly opt-in to SMS notifications, as they are not automatic for all deliveries.
  • Incorrect Information: The email or phone number in your MyPost account might be outdated.

Technical or Service Limitations

  • Non-AusPost Carriers: The delivery might be handled by another courier service, not Australia Post.
  • System Delays: Tracking updates can be delayed, or the item may not have been scanned into the system yet.

Recommendations:

  • Check that your phone number is listed in your MyPost profile on the AusPost website.
  • Ask the sender to confirm they have included your mobile number on the label.
  • Check the AusPost website manually with your tracking number, rather than relying on SMS.
  • Be aware of potential scams: Real AusPost links always end in .auspost.com.au.

Our family in rural don’t even have a letter box at their house, either the end of the block or usually they direct senders to the post office

Sms is quite convenient since they know without driving down to the streets letter box

A dumbphone is always a mobile phone. The distinction is between a smartphone and a dumbphone. A dumbphone usually lacks “apps” but can still do the basics of what a mobile phone needs to do. There is no formal definition of what constitutes the basics, hence what constitutes a dumbphone.

One challenge with that is that SMS is deadend technology (my opinion) because of its limitations - very low length limit, plain text only, no authentication / no security of any kind (message can easily be a scam), …

There is a risk that SMS is eventually phased out by mobile service providers in favour of e.g. RCS. (There would be questions as to whether a dumbphone will support e.g. RCS.)

Putting that aside, in some areas where parcel (non-)delivery notifications are most important, the area is one where there is no mobile service. So at home you can’t receive an SMS at all. (A workaround is SMS via WiFi, presuming that the home does have some kind of internet connection and presuming that both the phone and the mobile service provider support SMS via WiFi. I have no idea whether a dumbphone will support SMS via WiFi.)

So both parcel notifications and 2FA are best avoided via SMS.

last week got a call from a busines that an item had been returned to sender: not delivered, no card left, no sms.
Auspost: not good enough. As a governemnt business it needs to serve all members of the community, not just those who live towns and buy expensive phones.

With Parcel deliveries through AP we usually receive multiple emails in advance and a tracking number. Also a day or so in advance one or more updates of the estimated day for delivery. This does not need one to have MyPost, in my recent experience.

Although not always timely an AP SMS is received on the day of delivery with a delivery time window. Also advice whether the delivery if not home will be left in a safe place or taken to the LPO. Often however a day different to the estimated day previously advised. Convenience not always assured.

I was wondering if somewhere way back I’d created a MyPost account and forgotten doing so? Post Covid it has been uncommon for us to not have someone here. It’s been several years since we missed a delivery and needed to collect it at the LPO. Red Card advice provided, suggesting no MyPost account.

For any wondering, I was, whether one has a “MyPost” account:
Navigate to the AP home page: auspost.com.au,
Scroll to the bottom of the webpage and look for the MyPost link,
Use the link to go to the MyPost home page and attempt to login using your regular email.
Select the forgot password option. AP will send a reset Password code to your email, or if you do not have an account a message saying that there is no account using that email address. Which is the message I received. It took AP a minute or two before the email arrived. I don’t have a MyPost account, or I used a long forgotten email.

Where possible we direct all to a PO Box which we check at least once per week while doing other business at the Village. The LPO still leaves a card in the box to say there is a parcel to pick up. We usually receive an advice by email that there is a parcel ready to pick up.

As others have previously suggested, tracking and notifications will be provided by AP even if one does not have MyPost. It relies on the sender selecting the option and including your email and mobile/smart phone number.

The system appears to be designed to fail if the sender does not ask for tracking and include the addressee email and mobile no. Hopefully we were all taught at an early age how to correctly address and post a letter. To now include how to correctly address a parcel including the tracking details prior to posting.

AP “solution”, whether a marketing ploy or just a convenient dodge and a work around is the MyPost Account. Looking further at how this service works suggests AP need to link a delivery through the address, registered account name and mobile or email. The matching is done by scanning an image of the addressee details and software. The matching ability is not assured. Hand writing recognition is not perfect. Senders may write outside of boxes. Details may not match letter perfect?

Where the sender does not provide adequate details at posting and select tracking, several possible causes for failure. For recipients with and without MyPost.
Firstly per the OP where one lives outside the AP parcel delivery area. The addressee may or may not have a letter mail service. There’s according to the OP a gap in how AP manage advice a parcel is ready for collection if tracking is not provided, or when the parcel cannot be software scanner matched to a MyPost account. The trigger to provide a red card has either been overlooked or as others suggest withdrawn.

A further issue arises for MyPost where a home with more than one resident. Each resident will need a seperate account. Includes any children likely to receive parcel post. An observation spouses who have chosen to retain their maiden names (more common today including those with professional registrations to not change). Also possible where one may have a small private business and work from home.

For domestic posted parcels, is there also a responsibility for Australia Post to only accept and process fully addressed parcels with address/tracking details verified? Irrespective of whether one has a MyPost account or not delivery failure notification by SMS is not assured.

Did I just see a report about SMS and eMail scams from AusPost are these random events or linked to a hack of the MyPosy accounts

It is most likely the scammers send Australia Post SMS/emails as the likelihood of trapping victims is relatively high. This is because Australia Post dominates parcel delivery in Australia… and sending a fraudulent SMS/email to Australian consumers is more likely to hit its target. Same principle applies to scam phone calls, there are usually well known business names being used fir the scam attempt as using obscure businesses the potential for a consumer to fall for it becomes significantly lower.

It is highly unlikely it will be through a compromised Australia Post account. Nonetheless, it is good security hygiene to regularly change passwords for important online accounts and have different passwords for each online account. If the password hasn’t been changed in the past 6 months or so, then changing the password is still a good idea. The easiest way is to logout of one’s Australia Post account, and select ‘Forgot Password’ when at the login page:

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That is what a few companies like Optus etc said it is highly unlikely to get hacked , Yeah Yeah

Pretty hard to hack a little red card

Due to this topic, I paid a bit more attention to my most recent delivery than usual.

I use a unique email address for each company or other non-individual entity that wants to spam me. Therefore, as a side-effect, I can probe more finely in how email addresses are used.

So here’s what I can tell you (which may or may not be helpful) … all the notification emails keeping me up to date about the progress of the parcel were sent from Australia Post but

  • for this specific sender, and the immediate previous sender and other senders, to the email address associated with the sender, but
  • for an earlier parcel from a different sender to the email address associated with Australia Post.

That admits two explanations. 1. Australia Post has changed its procedures over time 2. It depends on the sender.

By careful study of emails, I believe I can eliminate the first explanation. So I conclude that it depends on the sender. For example, maybe, if the sender provides an email address to Australia Post then that email address will be used otherwise Australia Post will use the email address that they have for you.

This actually works pretty well for businesses sending parcels since the business will generally have required you to give an email address. I don’t remember the last time I received a parcel from a private individual, and maybe that is where things fall down.

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We’ve recently exchanged parcels with family. That which came to us used one of our mobile numbers to forewarn and update delivery. Albeit with only a few hours notice of delivery to the house, signature required.

The parcel we sent provided the sender but not the recipient with SMS updates! The recipient seemed not to be aware of impending delivery. Suspect the sender put their mobile number in the box intended for the recipients number.

No system is perfect?

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A number of people suggested I join Auspost app , so I tried , now heres the problem it said I was already a member , “no” never joined
So I thought OK if I am a member I will reset the password , asked 3 yes 3 times to have the reset information sent to my email address and guess what , no emails
So I ask what the hell do I do to resolve this what can only be described as electronic incompetence