Fallon Solutions are they over charging?

It’s often useful to look over prior posts in the same or related topics.
The 3 posts by @Andyt relate how Fallon were held to account by one consumer.

I found what may be an answer to my own doubts there as well.
Self evident the Fixed Price per this advice from Fallon Solutions is only provided once they have arrived on site. For the average consumer the suggestion that the business carries the risk of the job taking longer than the “fixed price” does not account for the customer carrying the risk of the job taking less and paying for services not required. IE time not spent on the job. The customer needs to absolutely trust the Fallon job cost is reliable, honestly competitive and not inflated.

Did you pay for more than than the travel fee quoted over the phone, and if so why did Fallon ask for a deposit?

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Hi Everyone
I have a very similar experience with Fallons
They cam quoted to fit remove and fit a new air conditioner to my mothers unit and the quote was for $6500 she rang me and I said that sounds a bit high.
She then rang another air conditioner company and the price was $2800 for exactly the same work.
When I contacted this company it was nothing but a stuff around my advice avoid them and get more than one quote.
I latter found out she had to pay a $80 dollar fee for the quote as well.

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Welcome to the community @Bert1.

Agree, obtaining more than one quote is essential.

It’s also important to consider the brand and ensure the replacement model is appropriate/sized correctly. Modern inverter AC’s are more efficient than older non-inverter models. Hence there may be a difference in recommended capacity.

There are also brands that are more often recommended by Choice and those less so.
A good place to start. The buying guides are open access. The product reviews require a Choice membership for full access.

Leaving it to the contractor to supply risks a poor choice. The contractor is likely to quote the RRP plus a mark up to supply. Going direct to a brand outlet or retailer such as the GoodGuys, or even Bunnings for some products I’ve routinely found substantial discounts on the RRP of recommended Choice models.

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Hi Mark
Thank you for your comments
What my point was that the A/C was exactly the same the supply and install on both quotes the Fallon quote was also with a claimed discount was as follows:
$4084 to supply the A/C and install
$1041 to decommission the old unit
$1432 to patch the wall
Total with discount $6619 without discount $7776
The same A/C at Harvey Norman is $1800 dollars.
The contractor for the second quote was $2,800 for all the works above.
My mother is 80 years old and alone I just feel that it was a quote to take advantage of her being alone and needing the work done.

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Similar experiences, with other businesses and trades for our older family members. Fallon looking to this site and others has a broad range of customer complaints if one looks to the low star feedback. Does their business model deliver customer value that can be balanced against return on the business investment? There are other businesses offering the same services for less and many happy customers.

Hope it goes well for your mum. Our experiences with Daikin and their agent for our mum, or local contractors to install Fujitsu and MHI have all been very positive.

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Just reading the name Fallons makes my blood boil! It is years since my incident with them but still makes me cross!

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Terrible experience. At the end of the site visit to obtain a quote the plumber told me the cost of what the job would be and then wanted me to sign a document saying that I would not be proceeding with the quote on that day which did not make sense. I had not received the quote and only told what the price would be verbally. After I paid for the fee to obtain the quote - I told the plumber I would not sign the document and would await their quote. I thanked the plumber for coming out and he just walked off without any even acknowledging me. Very poor service and unprofessionalism. As though anyone would want to proceed with the quote with that attitude. Also the quote was 4 times the cost of many other quotes.

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Welcome to the Community @Truth2024

As is often pointed out, searching business reviews can be fraught with fakes+/-, but when there is a trend on credible sites such as the Community the time spent searching is often rewarded by a consumer avoiding a sus business.

It appears your experiene reinforces those posted prior.

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I had a bad experience with Fallons recently and spat the dummy with them, via a snail mail letter to their managing director, saying that I wanted full refund for the terrible experience with their tradesman. In the letter, I explained, in detail, all the elements of what had made the event pretty terrible.

The result was that their “Customer Experience Manager” telephoned me and promised a full refund which duly arrived in my bank account shortly after.

My discussion with their Customer Experience Manager suggests that they know that they have a terrible reputation.

A great lesson that I learnt from a bloke named Jim Wrigley who taught a class on “Professional Communication” in an engineering degree course that I did in the early 1970’s was how to write a complaint letter. Jim had once worked for Myer and so was probably pretty experienced in such stuff. His main point was that when you write a complaint letter you should say what it is that you want. In my letter to Fallons, I said that I wanted a full refund and that is what I got.

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:cross_mark:I DONOT RECOMMEND FALLON SOLUTIONS - SUBSTANDARD LOW QUALITY :cross_mark: Beware: read/scroll all 1 star reviews first!
My experience has been atrocious to say the least. In summary - deceptive practices, coercion, defective work by carpenters and unprofessional conduct by the office and management. I expected the work to be high quality as profusely promised by the carpenter and I’m absolutely devastated with the substandard work performed.
I booked a quote for replace of 2 doors however I was manipulated/coerced into also having 2 new door frames replaced as well , its now evident they use upsell tactics to get more money out of you by suggesting extra repairs that aren’t necessary . The sales pitch “I’m from NZ we are much better trained carpenters and my work is of higher quality than an Australian carpenter. Absolute Rubbish!
The quality of work is disgraceful I didn’t receive what I requested and the two new doors I bought were never installed . I now have 2 door frames that are defective, substandard and misaligned with the old previous doors reinstalled crooked with a lean instead of my two new doors!

There was NO duty of care , the scope of works wasn’t adhered to by the carpenters and the substandard carpentry breaching the QBCC building code. The carpentry was rushed due to a mixup by an office staff member . They convinced and promised me he would do a top quality job - that’s NOT what I received I paid $2987.41 for bodgy defective carpentry that I didn’t need . It’s now evident the sales pitch was another lie.

Secondly,
I want to express my deep dissatisfaction and frustration with the appalling way the office staff has handled the carpentry booking and repair experience. From start to finish, I have been misled, manipulated, ignored, and treated with a complete lack of respect.
I was assured upon making a booking that the carpentry work I requested would be carried out on the same day. This was completely misleading and ludicrous . I waited 2.5 weeks to get a booking . What happened next was totally unacceptable!

On the morning of the scheduled repair — at 6:50 AM, no less — I was informed that a different carpenter would be attending. I specifically requested the same carpenter who completed my quote that assure me he would be doing the repairs . When I refused to accept the last-minute change, the office staff member was rude and hung up on me — simply because I wouldn’t allow her to pressure me into accepting someone else. That behavior is unprofessional, unacceptable, and frankly disgraceful.

I was then fed a series of conflicting and dishonest excuses:
• That the original carpenter “only does quotes” (a lie, as he told me himself that he performs carpentry),
• That “company policy” dictates I get whoever is available on the day (another lie — there is no mention of this in the contract or any communication).

Eventually, I was given the original carpenter — the same one who, according to your earlier lie, “doesn’t do carpentry” — but not until 11:00 AM. It is very clear that my time and commitments are not considered important by your company.

Since then, my calls were continually diverted to voicemail. This is not just poor service — it’s outright avoidance and neglect of your duty of care.

This entire experience has been riddled with lies, bait-and-switch tactics, and deliberate avoidance. I do not appreciate being misled, dismissed, and left chasing answers that should have been transparently communicated from the beginning.
They did not perform as promised . I wish they never came to my house at all I don’t tolerate defective work and lack of transparency and coercion .
Good luck to anyone who tolerates this type of behaviour. I wish I never had Fallon attend my property. I requested they reattend to fix the defective work and they have since refused only to suggest I pay someone to bog all the defects !! I have forwarded a defective carpentry application to the QBCC. :cross_mark: I DO NOT RECOMMEND FALLON SOLUTIONS :cross_mark:

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