Media & Politics - Corporations or People

With this new merger between Nine and Fairfax, are we supposed to believe it’s a good thing?
I have to question the fact that this government has changed these rules without any real consultation and it’s very hard not to get a little bit suspicious when the previous Australian Treasurer is the Chairman of Nine.

Although I believe in the right for ex politicians to work in industries they may know something about, sometimes it just feels like they’re waving their private parts in our faces and having a good laugh.

Correct me if I’m wrong but I understand politicians continue to receive money from the Govt. after finishing their tenure. If they are then getting paid in the private sector to effectively lobby for the company they work for AND getting paid by the tax payer… is that not a conflict of interest?


What is this ‘sometimes’ word?

The way they see it (obviously myopic) is that even we seniors can collect pensions/super and work as lobbyists promoting companies we once worked for. Summary: The rank and file has the same opportunity, just not the same connections / introductions, so that must make it right, surely it must.

Unfortunately the only ones who could right such wrongs as related to the public purses are those who receive the most benefit, or those looking forward to their own time at the troughs.


I have a pretty vivid imagination so “sometimes” is all I can handle :wink:

I think you may have nailed it there.


I’m feeling ill :wink:

… oh dear …


Fairfax (newspaper) has been in in a little trouble for a number of years now…and it could be said that it has been subsidised by its eelctronic platform Domain.

Standing back, the company may have jetisoned the newspaper to forcus on the profitiable electronic platforms. I suspect that this was on the cards as the recent company restructure could allow this to happen less painfully.

Now, if the newspaper was jetisoned, one could assume that it would have a limited future life. If the Fairfax newspaper folded, then the only real newspaper company would be Newscorp. All hard print news would be seen through potentially one set of eyes.

Now, if the Nine/Fairfax company leads to the long term success of Fairfax, and there is a higher chance that it will exist in the long term, I personally think this is in Australia’s interests.

At least this may result in two main print media camps with hopefully two alternative views…rather than the alternative being one which is becoming more of an American company.

It may not be seen as the best solution, but it may be the only solution,


Labour or Liberal, Coke or Pepsi, Black or White…
I think we need more than just two possibly alternative view points… I can’t see this as anything to celebrate. Media ownership laws were put in place so as to protect our local, regional and national view points. When the majority of Australia’s media is owned and operated by just a couple of corporations the obvious winners are those corporations and shareholders, not the “everyday” Australian people.


Don’t disagree, but two (present situation) is still better than one.


Agree that two is better than one! Except?

Considering that two is just one step removed from one.
Also applies to a two party political system as much as newspaper organisations.

Then three is probably better than two!

Remember how much better watching a program with three colours was in place of two (black and white). For the wiser amongst us evident more as shades of grey to the point that every thing sort of looked the same.

Is the bigger concern not the changing future of Fairfax, but the increasing influence of Boggle, ID-book, etc over accessible content?

9 out of 10 people simply go to Google or Bing ignoring all else on the web. Need to go to MyGov we type “mygov” into the google search bar. So not necessary to share this with Google and all those cookies.

As a commentator on the demise of Dick Smith Foods pointed out. The average Aussie consumer buys on price, despite what they might share as a preference for Aussie made. Same for news content - free will win over paid content, although most of us will say we value most independent local journalism.

Interestingly the two broadcasters who have made the most of the digital revolution are SBS and the ABC. No doubt soon to be a fresh target for competing unfairly against commercial enterprise streaming services.


That step seems to be getting smaller. This story is running in both Nine and former Fairfax media. The implication of the headline is obvious. Careful reading of the little factual information in the piece tells a different story.

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If one looks at many recent headlines they seem to be subtly or overtly tainting the ALP and supporting coalition policies, at least if one does not read the underlying articles, and many do not.

Seems our press continues its way as effectively being lobbyists but by another name.


A News newspaper accidently publishes some credible articles.


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It’s hardly a surprise - ‘legitimate media’ is defined as those who don’t upset the apple-cart too much (bonus points for those who are complicit in political campaigns) and as apple-carts go, the government in the NT is desperately trying to balance one of the most unsteady apple-carts in the country …

Interesting developments in that most crucial of political hot spots (not) - the NT - where the whole population is just a smidgen over a decent rock concert attendance figure, though probably louder on average.

A job opportunity for someone?

I wonder how many political careers will be saved by the convenient and unanticipated smokescreen of COVID-19. Or otherwise … :wink:


Mr Kevin Rudd has put an e-petition up to Federal Parliament to ask for a Royal Commission about de-concentration of Media ownership and in particular that of the Murdoch empire. Murdoch owns at least 2/3s of all print media in Australia, close to a monopoly in many ways as many are national and State based.

The New Daily has a news item about it all:

If you wish to look at or sign the e-petition it can be found at: (EDIT link now works as at 12/Oct)

Signature numbers now at least 109,000 at 3pm 12/Oct


I am getting an Error 404 message. Page not found.

Maybe Murdoch had it pulled?

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They are having huge problems at the moment I will see if I can get a better link to perhaps the entire list of petitions that might work. But as you say @Fred123 it may be for an entirely different reason.

The one you want from the list is the highlighted one

This is the warning regarding petition issues:


Thanks for posting that. It works until one tries to ‘submit’. Perseverance will be required to add one’s name.


Real reasons may be different to what some may think…As @Fred123 eluded to the reasons may not be IT related :smiley_cat:

For Everyone: When trying to submit ensure the little box is ticked as I missed that about 2 times until I actually twigged to it.


When the signature confirmation is not complete the site sends an automated email to complete the signature. That fails just like the abortive online attempt. A cynic might think government is not interested in anything but Dorothy Dix petitions.

and on it may go until the end of the petition period, and if so there will need to be a RC on why the government web site failed.


My attempt suggested that the email is sent to confirm your email and ID as an intended action, for all petitioners.

On clicking the link in the Email received, it did a few flashes before jumping to the Safari web page for the partition. IE with the Message in red saying some users may be experiencing problems signing.

Cynicism and uncertainty abounds. Was I successful or was I not? The messaging is not that clearly saying pass or fail. The lack of a confirmation screen saying success or email confirmation suggests not.

Perhaps the index counter for the records of those signing the partition has never been tested with such a large number of responses? I did use the email my local Federal MP knows me by, so that could not possibly be the problem! :wink:


After clicking the emailed links it seemed to continue responding with an error. Never having seen a message such as ‘accepted’ or ‘confirmed’ I tried again from the beginning (yet again) and it gave me an error my email address had already been used for a submission.

Perhaps they are not interested in a petition that focuses on governments most supportive puppet master, as some see it?