I’ll second that, but I also found the brass fittings are not as compatible with the plastic ones as might be expected. Some (not all) plastic males will randomly jettison from a brass female fitting under even modest pressure. Likewise a brass male can get stuck in a plastic female. Very minor differences in measurements and edge design can have consequences. Bottom line is if ones goes with brass it can be an all or nothing exercise.
I’ll third that. We have even accidentally driven over a brass connector which survived, unlike a plastic one.
We have also fund that the plastic fitting tend to get brittle and the male fitting tend to break at the bottom of the shaft. We have brass fitting which are about 20 years old and still going strong…albeit with rubber o-ring replacement occasionally.
Unlike @TheBBG, we find the male brass fittings tend to jettison or leak profusely from a female plastic fitting. The plastic flanges which grip on the shaft seem to be the wrong shape or don’t protrude enough for the brass ones.
The only downside to the brass ones is one need to regularly tighten the fitting as they loosen faster than the plastic ones.
I use loctite or a similar sticky compound on the thread to stop the loosening. I have also used a smallish drop of silicone sealer on the thread to achieve the same result, too much and it is very hard to undo when needed but just a smidgen does a great job.
I have two hoses from Bunnings both on reels, both bought several years ago,one has plastic fittings, the other brass fittings.I have had no trouble with either of them because I look after them. By this I mean I keep them in the garage, pull them out when I go to use them, and put them back afterwards.
Lazy people who leave them all over the place in the sun, and then run their cars over them are sure to have trouble with any product. Like anything, look after it and you will be ok. It takes no time at all to wheel them out and back in afterwards.
What is required is for proper tests to be done on all the hoses and fittings available.
My guess would be that 50% would fail the “fit for purpose” test.
Of the rest most would not meet the warranty specified on the product.
But then governments don’t see themselves as providing or enforcing any meaningful consumer protection.
At least we have Choice.
Actually it’s the opposite as far as UV absorption.
You’re probably thinking, “Wait, I thought dark colors attracted the sun!” Interestingly, although they attract more heat than light hues, they actually offer greater UV protection, because the rays can’t penetrate the fabric as well. Darker material has a higher ultraviolet protection factor (UPF) rating, which measures the amount of sun protection certain fabrics provide. For instance, a dark green cotton shirt has a UPF of 10, whereas the same exact shirt in white has a UPF of 7.
While colour does affect UV transmission, colour can affect its absorption. It is the absorption that will cause damage as the energy of the absorbed UV waves is what denatures the material. Other factors affecting the UV absorption are type of material, reflectiveness and its thickness and density etc.
For plastics, latex and rubber compounds, the additional of UV stabilisers is also likely to influence product life/UV exposure resistance. A similar product with UV stabilisers will last longer in a UV environment to one without.
UPF is also different to damage caused by UV. If your example is correct, the white shirt is likely to have a longer life in UV environments as more UV will pass through/reflected by it. The dark green cotton will absorb more UV…of which will denature the fabric quicker resulting in a shorter comparable life. Initial denaturing may be colour loss and surface fabric deterioration.
UPF = UV protection factor! Dark colours resist UV degradation. It’s why they recommend darker coloured water tanks that sit in the sun all day. Have a read here:
We purchased 3 Hozelink retractable hoses for our new home and another 2 for our daughters, & all additional fittings. The rewind is quite hopeless, seems to pull to one side so doesn’t fully retract on at least 2 of ours, the 3rd doesn’t get used very often so haven’t noticed if it is also difficult. My daughter has complained about hers as well. The fittings seem to be affected by the weather so we can’t change the settings on them. Previously we purchased retractable hoses from Bunnings and whilst they were not ideal they are a 3rd of the price of Hozelink, plus much easier to return to Bunnings than trying to return a Hozelink. Don’t think we will bother with Hozelink again…
No, UPF does not suggest longer life. For clothing, it corresponds to uv transmission through the fabric. Lower upf means more transmission of uv light.
The black tanks in the link have carbon added to the moulded plastic, while I haven’t researched carbon effects in plastic, taking face value of what is on the tank website, the carbon acts as a uv stabiliser.
If one paints a house white (or even a car) for example, white paint will last longer and in better condition that an equivalent black paint over the same period.
Looks like we’ll have to agree to disagree phbriggs! I would encourage anyone following this thread to google the information and make up their own minds. Please have a look at the link re water tanks I have provided. Those people would be in the forefront of what this thread is covering. Have a great day ph! My input on this is at an end!
I got sick of hoses splitting, kinking etc so I bit the bullet and purchased a Hoselink brand retractable hose and fittings. So far so good. I love it!
I w?onder if the thin hoses are imported from China. ?
We bought a retractable Hoselink hose, hose reel cover and various fittings. Loving it.
I assume you’re referring to Hozelock which have pretty ordinary reviews.
This shouldn’t be confused with Hoselink who are a completely separate Australian owned company which in my experience have excellent products and outstanding service.
I have a 30m Hoselink reel, several stand alone Hoselink hoses all with corresponding Hoselink fittings and nozzles. Everything is over 7 years old and all except the reel spends its life in full sun. Bar some colour fading of the tap fittings, I have had no problems as yet and would absolutely recommend.
Ah nope… Dale your assumption is incorrect… LOL But I can see why you might think I meant Hozelock as I wrongly spelt Hoselink with an Z. We did a lot of research before we purchased and there were some negative reviews but overall Hoselink seemed to be the best option. The connections don’t leak but the retractors are frustrating… particularly the long reel. All the nozzles have died. The reels are around 5 years old, so not sure if they changed their place of manufacture. Unfortunately unlike you I could not recommend… I’m just disappointed that I convinced my daughter to spend extra to get Hoselink. I hope yours continue to work.
Have you sought any support and possibly compensation from Hoselink? I think by the way they promote their product you would expect them to be very concerned to provide solutions and support. I also strongly suspect you would also have a good solid case for that under Australian Consumer Law based on their “premium product” type advertising.
Hoselink hoses pay for themselves as mine are approximately 5 years old and the connectors are easy to use and very strong.
Thats a good point graholl however because it’s over 5 years I suspect it wouldn’t be worth the effort. The retractor has since died completely and won’t retract at all, so looks like we will be replacing the whole unit. My husband may make one final call to Hoselink to see if they have any suggestions.
The Hoselink warranty on th eretractor reel is only 2 years which is the same as the 2 Pope units we have.