It was for a friend. I understand
@TheBBG Your understanding is gratefully and gracefully received
Is the caffeine usage scientifically proven to work?
The cost of some of the shampoos, conditioners and lotions I have seen around seem quite steep just because some caffeine was added. A can of coke after all only costs $1 to $2 in most places and they add plenty of caffeine to that or even buying an energy drink with loads more caffeine added are very cheap in comparison to these Caffeine hair loss treatments. Shampoo can be bought quite cheaply as well and so adding caffeine should not cost a whole lot more. I wonder if people who use the hair products actually get the results they pay for?
Priceline Chemists have Alpecin C1 Caffeine Shampoo (250 ml) for $13, this is about 6 times the cost of a can of coke (not at all suggesting that a can of coke is a good or even usable hair treatment). A decent jar of instant coffee can be bought from around $4 to around similar prices as the shampoo and you would get a lot of 250 ml cups at that cost. Ok I am not suggesting that coffee be used as a substitute but the use of the shampoo or other products seems to be just as a transport medium for the caffeine to get to the hair follicles.
In 2018 the makers of Alpecin in the UK were banned from saying that the products could ‘help to reduce hair loss’. The Advertising Standards Authority (ASA) in part of the summation wrote: “Taking into account the body of evidence as a whole, we considered that we had not seen any studies of the actual product as used by consumers on their scalp using an accurate and objective analysis of hair growth, in a well-designed and well-conducted trial. We concluded that the claim “it can actually help to reduce hair loss” had not been substantiated and was therefore misleading”.
But things may have changed or studies and proper trials may now support the claims regarding caffeine, can anyone find that proof?
For a friend of course?
I did find this on line which suggests at one point they are still looking for a “real cure” for male baldness. The article as a point of contradiction, also comes with a long list of other cures in the sidebars just in case you can’t wait.
There is a great reference to10 Caffeine shampoo products for hair loss. No science or evidence!
I can’t wait to try the neem oil cure which ranks further up the page than caffeine. It is also easy to find. Just look in the garden shed, along with all the pesticides. It comes with a thorough ABC Gardening Australia recommendation. It’s totally organic and will help to control common problems such as aphids and whiteflies. At least if my hair does not grow back the leftovers will be useful in the garden.
Given hair is dead stuff, it seems more reasonable that any cure needs to act directly on the subcutaneous layer of the skin. Putting product on hair seems counterintuitive, and a waste?
I’ve also rarely noticed any males in Japan with baldness. As caffeine is a recent product in their culture perhaps they know something we are yet to discover about keeping your hair thick and dark into maturity?
That is evidence marketing ‘education’ trumps reality, and the business of healthy hair is very profitable.
I like to think of it as “scalp gain”.
I have the high forehead/Friar Tuck pattern so it’s really only an issue for tall people standing behind me.
Why not just use coffee grounds after you’ve had your espresso etc? Why pay extra?
I don’t know what sort of concentration the caffeine is in these products, but I’m sure that buying a pack of caffeine tabs would allow you to produce quite a large quantity of ‘caffeine shampoo’ at considerably less expense, just by adding some ground up tablets to regular cheap shampoo… and you wont smell like you spilt coffee on yourself!
Assuming not all the caffeine has been removed through the making of the cuppa, it may have unintended consequences…
A plumber that unblocked our drains many years ago warned us not to put coffee grains or tea leaves (or install a sinkerator) and such materials bind with oils, fats etc and result in blockages.
Maybe one need to make a coffee ground tea, just like a compost tea and hope the resulting solution contains caffeine.
The cheapest and easiest option may be to purchase refined caffeine. …
and hope that its use has no side effects…
Yep, I can see all those thirty-something men, who have just found that first little thinning patch, sitting up watching TV with a coffee mud pack on their head. No more ridiculous than getting plugs and much cheaper. Ashley and Martin home brand arabica, “With the added bonus that you can drink the residue too”!
Chuckles. Why not? Could be a couples experience although not sure cukes go well with espresso.
And smelling like an espresso machine for days.
My other half thought coffee removed/stained grey hair (some internet fable she read) and decided to do it a few times. She smelt like a espresso machine for a few days and the hair retained a lingering smell kif one put ones nose up to the hair) for a about a week. No need for perfume/colognes.
A coffee mud pack could sole two problems in one.
Sounds as though it’s time to test the product Choice…But my answer i feel would be a huge No,just another gimmick
Good to exfoliate and it’s free. Good nourishment for hair. … make fun of natural products all you like.
Hair is dead, it does not metabolise, it cannot be nourished.
I have hair fall - aggravated by longterm illness. But I am not going bald. I have found a Dove product for treating hair fall that has grapeseed oil, bought in Indonesia. I found it reduces hair fall. How / why it works, I don’t know. So whether it would help anyone going bald for other reasons I have no idea.
I’d be too tempted to drink the shampoo. My hair, or so it is alleged to be called, is a lost cause
Re “a hair mud pack” I’ve used coffee grounds with Henna to colour hair and are great for getting a rich brown colour with the added softness of the henna. I never gave any thought about caffeine improving the thickness of my hair, but with clear henna, it certainly felt like it was!
I use Olive Oil, Rosemary and Nettle shampoo. my hair is thicker, stronger and healthier…
Used to use coffee with Henna when trying to stretch henna. Coffee has many benefits and cannot see any reason to throw it out.
Thanks for the interesting discussion everyone. I will take the topic as a suggestion for further CHOICE investigation and I’ve awarded some badges. Please feel free to keep adding to the thread.
Further use of Indonesian anti-hairfall products seems to be having a beneficial effect longterm.
The experiment continues.