Do you have the NBN?

Nope not yet…Been told it will be available at any time now.But previously they said 2020 i’m going to stick with the latter to be honest then i won’t get disappointed lol

Hi @draughtrider, I’m chasing up the matter and will get back to you as soon as possible. My understanding is that we had a lot of applications and they are still being processed. Apologies for the lack of contact as well.

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“Unfortunately, due to the specific technical criteria we have for this first roll-out, we’re unable to proceed with your registration at this time.”

I guess the specific technical criteria will be published along with the first round of results?

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I’ve been told there were some location requirements, and that there will be some more information published over the next month or so. Hopefully that will clear things up, but if not let me know and I can chase up more info.

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‘location requirements’ sounds more ‘geographic’ than ‘technical’ - though I understand one can lead to the other, however my belief is that I have standard FTTN, the only factor would be increased latency, if by a small amount … maybe it’s a ‘big city’ thing :wink:

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Due to the title of this thread I feel there might be a few coming here over time as the rollout (or lack thereof in some areas) of the NBN continues, for their own research purposes. I hope to remember to post tests here at least once a month so that those visiting the thread will have an idea of consistency with the speeds NBN provides when provided as originally intended.
I have the eMetric installed and running, but of course the data that it provides won’t be available for a while yet. Below are copies of the speed tests I did earlier tonight (Wednesday) in peak usage times that I posted on the thread here - Internet download speeds. My RSP is Optus and I’m on the top speed plan which used to be marketed as 100mps. Also relevant to the numbers below is that we are connected via FTTP, with the NBN box in the centre of the house, not on an outside wall.

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NBN satellite a short time ago:

However, that speed is very misleading, as trying to watch live streaming ABCTV results in 3-5 missed minutes of program per hour due to dropouts/buffering.
It is pretty useless IMO.

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I have to agree with you. As it currently stands from everything I’ve seen and heard from people with Satellite NBN it’s obviously not fit for purpose. Yes it gives people access to the internet but because of the limitations that pure satellite brings to the mix, that access is only reliable for web surfing, email, etc. and is highly dependant on weather conditions. Forget about streaming services, gaming, video conferencing or Skype/VOIP when a connection isn’t stable. That situation is something that will hold a lot of regional areas back on so many levels. Modern education is improved with reliable high quality internet, as is medical treatment & diagnosis services, business can function better and of course the basic fact of humans needing entertainment and social contact (especially in regional areas with lower populations). We have a great pool of talent in this country when it comes to network technologies and if the government was fair dinkum in it’s “innovation nation” spiel, they’d be getting those heads together to come up with a better technology mix for this wide brown land - one that may not give very high speeds in some areas, but that was at the very least a consistent connection so those areas listed above could rely on the service and reap the benefits.

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Probably underfunded but if the scope is reasonable it could do the job for some. Now about the election…

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Bold plan but once again lacking in long term vision or breadth of service. No definite number of premises covered but stated only to be in the metropolitan area. Guessing those in the Adelaide Hills won’t have any reason to tick the box next to his party lol.

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Satellite is a fallback, for when there’s no other option. It gets the job done, after a fashion, but shouldn’t be regarded as a permanent solution or even long-term one. It’s a stopgap until the job can be done properly. The same can be said of fixed wireless. Our problem is politicians whose vision doesn’t extend beyond the next election.

Anyway, I’ve said all this before:
http://david.boxall.id.au/201604/

I recently managed to pull off a transfer from NBN satellite to fixed wireless. The saga is documented on Facebook. The results are pretty impressive (50/20 plan on a tower that was commissioned in January, so it’s very lightly loaded).

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We have a 12/1 NBN service via HFC through Internode. It delivers 11.3 down 0.95 up (Ookla Speed Test, WiFi to phone) all day every day when it’s working. Never slows down in peak hour. Well done Internode, for buying enough capacity.
However we have had trouble with the modem disconnecting because of cable faults. We have had cable for 20 odd years, and all the junctions were corroded. Ultimately even cable terminations inside the house proved to be corroded. NBN come within a few days and find a few more “dud” joints. Maybe they have found them all now; maybe they haven’t.
So it comes as no surprise to me that the NBN rollout via HFC has been suspended.

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Hi all! I’m new here. I just received my first edition of Choice Computer magazine after signing up as a subscriber.

I noticed the NBN survey and wanted to join in, but I take it I have to wait until next year? My ISP wasn’t mentioned because it had too few responses.

I’ve got uniformly very good experiences to report after I upgraded to FTTP a year ago and went to a gigabit plan 1000/50 for $139, entirely affordable with two of us working from home. All the hail storms and soaking bad weather no longer causes intermittent slowdowns and I never get pauses in my video conferences anymore. Plus I can honestly say I never notice evening “peak hour” slowdowns … whenever I need to grab 20 GB, it always flies down at 930-935 Mbps.

The hardest part was fighting the realisation that I couldn’t just keep tweaking the wifi more and more. I had to run Ethernet through the old house and I had a very difficult (but enjoyable) Easter weekend involving 20 metres of PVC conduit from Bunnings and a chunky drill bit tied to a piece of string.

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Welcome to the Community @ckent1

Without comment, from a Whirlpool Wiki.

In Australia, it’s illegal to do your own fixed home cabling. It’s legal to connect devices using pre-made Ethernet cables strung along skirting boards or under carpets but this wiki is about permanent installations. Any under-floor, in-wall or in-roof cabling must be done by a registered cabler. This is for your safety as well as the safety of technicians who work on the external networks which are (or may be) connected to your home. It’s also to preserve the integrity of the public telecommunications network by ensuring that all connected cabling meets acceptable standards.

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I could be wrong but I don’t think Choice has any say in who gets the boxes to measure their NBN performance. The scheme is run by the ACCC and If anybody can determine exactly how they allocate the equipment I would be very keen to hear.

I merged your topic into this older one that appears germane. There are a few about the NBN, good and bad. There is another where the regular ACCC reports have been linked, see the latter posts as the topic spans a few years.

I believe the Choice survey report is at least in part derived from the ACCC program and augmented with feedback from annual Choice surveys.

Hotlinked-click the following for details. Want to join in the measuring broadband program to add data to the process? The ACCC is still looking for applicants, but in particular people living in new housing estates, either on an NBN or alternative fibre network, as well as anyone on the new gigabit plans offered by some retail services providers.

Very useful if you can get one as it allows close monitoring of nbn™ speeds to your premises. Helped us sort out an issue with our ABB speeds. Nothing guarantees a SamKnows (white box) router, only by registering and waiting will you find out if successful or not. Being on one of the 1Gb speed plans will certainly improve odds at the moment of being offered one. The box is sent from the UK so even after acceptance it can take a little bit to arrive.

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Power and water yes, but I didn’t realise data cables required a cabler - understandable but tedious. Suppose small rectangular conduit along top of skirting would be OK?

It’s all in the interests of protecting the tradies. Personal safety and some might also suggest incomes.

Looking to the past standards were not so rigorous. Our 30yo phone line is loose clipped to the bearers and joists under the floor. There is no sign of conduit, and only minimal separation from the household power at several locations.

With our NBN upgrade path Fixed Wireless there is no outside cable to connect, assuming FW service is possible. The greatest risk arising from improper fixed cabling in the home is misadventure or inadvertent connection or coupling to the household 230V. The ones at greatest risk, those in the household.

I’m more curious if the fixed connection was fibre in lieu of copper. I suspect the same rules apply!

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Adding on to @mark_m’s comments I am fascinated by (noting this is the text from a WIki that reflects the rule)

It’s also to preserve the integrity of the public telecommunications network by ensuring that all connected cabling meets acceptable standards.

In the PSTN days the entire home wiring loom faced the network, different from today where a cable of whatever type comes into the premises to meet with a modem. On the premises side of a modem making it illegal to run cables to ostensibly protect the external network is curious at best, although could be justified as protecting an errant cable or drill from meeting with a live electrical wire in a wall; yet it rings hollow for myself since it assumes many things, including that we are all inept and careless.

Many licensed tradies do some fairly ordinary work and nobody cares so long as they pay their annual fees, but let a homeowner transgress and it is different.

So we individuals can get licenses to DIY our own homes by taking a test, and paying an annual cost roughly the same as hiring a licensed tradie.

Yet it will be forever defended as justifiable?

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